Read up on Lester's I am, therefore I eat article before you read this, so you know what I'm talking about.
Case 1: In the future, brains, the whole human essence, can be transplanted into robotic shells (Man, that seems really familiar somehow...) Thus, you do not NEED to eat to EXIST. Sure, your batteries may need charging every once and again, but you didn't say "I am, therefore I get my batteries recharged", so you will be wrong in that case.
Case 2: Humans, believe it or not, will become SO LAZY that they won't even waste energy to: Get food, chew food, swallow food. They will have it transported a la Star Trek right into their bellies, skipping right over the eating portion of the food process and skip right to digestion. The bodies get so huge that it eventually explodes and then you find yourself back at case 1.
Case 3: We invent AI and it enslaves us to produce their energy inside the Matrix. In the "real" world, tubes are shoved down our throats, so technically we are not eating. In the "fake" world, we are eating food, but not for real. And since others have learned to hack the matrix, they know that they do not need to eat to survive, and so they don't (but some do it for the taste).
So it will NOT be a case that "I eat because I exist" (as the way you put it) because in the future people will not need to eat to exist. Even "I exist because I eat" (I eat, therefore I am) is wrong because your eating didn't create your existence, it can only extend the time of your existence to a certain point.
Hey, it was either this, or talk about something more boring.
Wednesday, July 28, 2004
Reasons Lester will eventually be wrong.
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I can't believe you just did that. You took what I wrote from the bottom of my heart and threw it in my face. I am so hurt by your actions that it has brought me to tears. I don't think I can go on like this...suicide is the only solution I can see. I will kill myself...in about 90 years if I'm still alive then. Cause who wants to be 111 years old? I guess I do, so nevermind, I say no to suicide.
By the way, I said "I am, therefore I eat." I said "I," not humans. So my statement only refers to me, and unless the advancement in technology you spoke of happens in my lifetime, what I said is true. I eat because I'm alive (and also I like to eat as a hobbie).
Oh, yeah. Right. Whoops.
The following is a transcript on the discussion of the related articles.
Essentially, what my rebuttle boils down to is this:
You are also forgetting that you also said "but people who do not eat, become no longer, therefore to be, you must eat". You had to state that you are like everyone else. Your continuing existence then is not dependant on your eating, it only becomes optional. Thus, if someone else can exist and not eat, then you could too, and my argument is still valid.
Now here is the trascript:
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
I put a comment on your post
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
read it
Shayne says:
ok
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
tell me if it makes sense (I wrote it while watching anime so it may have mistakes)
Shayne says:
You didn't take any of that personally, right?
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
I took it quite personally, and it hurt me deeply, I have a noose around my neck as we speak
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
I am very ..........there are jiggling boobies on tv....that was weird
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
damn boobies, made me lose concentration on what I was talking about
Shayne says:
hahahahahahahahahaha
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
I like ice cream...
Shayne says:
Lester 1 - Shayne 0.
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
hahaha
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
are you talking about my comment?
Shayne says:
yeah
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
BUAHAHAAH, I win
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
eating is my hobby
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
I spelled hobby wrong on my comment
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
darn
Shayne says:
Ah ha, On the spelling front, It's like Shayne 37 Lester 3
Shayne says:
But whose keeping scroe.
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
y9ou are
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
ack
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
I was gonna say you spelled score wrong...but then I put a number in the word you
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
which is worse
Shayne says:
Wahts wonrg with us?
Shayne says:
Well, I was going to correct it, but it was ironic this way, so I left it.
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
hahahaha
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
awesome
Shayne says:
why did I think it applied to every one and not just you?
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
because a statement like that usually refers to all people
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
sort of
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
but you forget, I'm very simple minded
Shayne says:
Maybe this is why: "but people who do not eat, become no longer, therefore to be, you must eat"
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
I guess so....
Shayne says:
So you had to infer yourself as everyone else
Shayne says:
and if someone else can exist and not eat, then you could too.
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
hmmm
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
true
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
damn
Shayne says:
So therefore your continuing existance is not dependant on your eating, it only becomes optional.
Shayne says:
existence
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
yeah....its hard to think and watch tv at the same time.....
Shayne says:
whatever, I forget how its spelled.
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
that's ok
Shayne says:
Man, I should have put that on the comment.
Shayne says:
oh well.
Shayne says:
I don't care.
Shayne says:
I think we both learned something from this,
Shayne says:
so lets no spoil it by arguing which one is more right.
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
put a comment
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
come on, do it
Shayne says:
You mean the comments that I just typed to you?
Boku wa Same desu (Nightgoat) - Ghost in the Shell DVD!! says:
yup yup
Shayne says:
Well, ok.
Who is AL?
You don't know? It's Alabama. That's right. In the future, computer scientists invent Alabama and it enslaves all of humankind in the Matrix.
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